Dso Original Set Lists V. Gd Set Lists
Posted 21 November 2010 - 02:02 AM
Robbie SO GOOD to see you ! I never really was one to go in wishing , hoping , or expecting ! Really if you ALL are feeling it then I know I will be ! Looking so forward to X MAS New Years LOVE ! I SO skipped MSG tonight
p. s. I'm pretty FREE tomorrow night too : )))))))))))))))))))
Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:18 AM
besides you can always string together a few traditionals if the mood feels right..
regardless thank you for all you you do , it is beyond compare!
Posted 21 November 2010 - 11:50 AM
But the recreations are much more important and are what made the band as successful as it is today. It is grad school for jam band musicians and "high" school for new (and old) Grateful Dead fans. Some other band will pick up the torch if it has become too heavy, but I would surely mourn that day.
Edited by Run Mary, 21 November 2010 - 11:56 AM.
Posted 21 November 2010 - 01:42 PM
I think part of the bands selling point is "recreating" Grateful Dead setlist better than anybody else out there. I enjoy getting to a show and evaluating the drum setup, mics, guitars and piano/organ area to look for "clues" that may reveal something about the night to come. And for me it only gets better from that point. When the show starts I have a lot going through my head....Is this a recreation or an original? What year is being recreated? Do i already of a copy of the GD show? Can i pick out the exact setlist? But i'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to my GD music collection.
That being said, I'm not a big fan of knowing the show before i get there. I thought it was cool on 5/9/2007 but since....not my favorite. But that's just my opinion...
Posted 21 November 2010 - 03:01 PM
i prefer originals, but i really value the 60 something recreations ive attended. the recreations are great for GD geeks like myself to experience times that came before i even existed. i think the recreations also help reinforce a larger catalog of playable tunes, allowing the band to play songs they might not have suggested otherwise. However, being the GD geek that i am, as soon as i see the set up i know what potential songs could be played, which takes out some of the excitement. Also, there are a lot of songs that were played virtually non-stop from 72-92 (playin, promised, let it grow, etc) and the recreations reflect this. so after seeing 75 shows (70 of which had a promised land), im always excited about originals because they're chocked full of rarer (and JGB) songs
by the way, i miss the starhead family! hope to see everyone soon!
Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:26 PM
Posted 22 November 2010 - 12:27 AM
My comments are similar to JFolks, The original concept of DSO was to recreate Grateful Dead Shows and for old fans of the GD that is a fun concept, but the band has matured over the years and the Original or Elective set lists allow for incredible creative work on the music, So I am a big fan of both. I do think we can use the Dead show base as a powerful tool to draw in fans at the right time in the right city, looking forward to the Cali run...see you all around the playground.
I'm with Dr. V and JFolks...
I prefer the elective setlists, but I also love the recreations...
With the electives, you just never know what your gonna get. Two prime examples; the Nokia show a while back when DSO did a Help>Slip>Stranger>Franklin's, and in AC the last time around, they did an Other Ones>Standing on the Moon>Other ones... I mean WOW... You really NEVER do know what's coming next... I love the originals because with the Dead, I feel, that certain era's have definate paterns with the first sets, and second sets and you can almost feel where they are going from song to song. With the electives, you get to hear such beautiful tunes that you normally wouldn't get out of a Dead show, i.e. Visions, Believe it or Not, Strange Man, Two Souls, Spoonful, ect....It took me a while to warm up to the elective setlists, because I was so excited to try and figure out what year they were playing, and to hear shows that were orgionaly played way before my time. While the electives are my favorite, I can understand the recreations people. It's what first brought me to see a DSO show, and brought me back many many times in the first few years I followed them around/
On the other hand, there are recreations that just leave me totally flabbergasted. I have yet to see them do a 69 show, but I absolutely love when they recreate the setlists from the 83-84 era.. A few that come to my mind; The Hampton 83 show they did at The E-Factory, the two night run Augusta 84 they did at the El Ray a while back, and the Warfield 83 show they did at the E-Factory (Scotty blew my socks off with the Mr. Fantasy>Hey Jude>Ripple filler). As much as I would love to see them play more elective setlists, looking at it from a business standpoint, I would have to say keep the recreations in heavy rotations at the bigger venue's and cities... The younger generation, who never got to see Jerry, want to hear shows they've heard on their bootlegs, and feel the era so to speak. From being at a shitton of DSO shows through out the years, I've heard the younger crowd comment on being a bit discouraged when they find out it's an elective show. Being that we are still all in a shitty economical cash-strapped times, I think the recreations would fill out the venue's more, therefore letting our beloved musicians have a bigger, more energy filled crowd to play to., which in my opinion, makes their musical energy flow more freely.
Either way, I'm happy to get to ANY DSO show that I can, and I KNOW I will enjoy every second that they are preforming onstage. Recreating, fuckin' excellent... Elective, even fuckin' better!!
Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:44 AM
The west coast run will be all recreations and I certainly am not complaining about that one bit either! Its ALL good.
Posted 22 November 2010 - 03:00 AM
Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:06 AM
if those tunes happen to be a show from 78 or 89 ... or a combo of songs that you tossed together like a salad (and I love salads) I am good either way....
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