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@  Mason... : (26 July 2015 - 02:32 PM) Good thing supplicated bailed. As I understand it, Help has a full car Atl to Black Mountain.
@  Supplic... : (18 June 2015 - 02:51 PM) Kiss kiss! Hula, being a pantomime kind of dancing, is much like dancing like us Bobby dancers that pantomime every word just like he used to stop playing to hand gesture it out hehe
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@  HelpSlip : (12 June 2015 - 04:09 AM) keep that day job Steph and get to Atl/BlkMtn ! i can be yur ride
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@  chuckvegas : (05 June 2015 - 04:58 PM) For an interesting take on subsistence farming check out Talking Heads' "Nothing But Flowers."
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@  PoetryGirl : (05 June 2015 - 09:51 AM) yes, Steph. It would be gracious goodness to see you. Check out milpa, a crop growing system used in mesoamerica. They have literally farmed the same piece of land without crop rotation for thousands of years. The combo naturally enriches the soil.
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@  Mason... : (04 June 2015 - 12:39 PM) I'm down. I wouldn't call what mango and I did lecturing. Very much discussing and sharing what we believed not telling anyone what to believe. We should do this in private but I don't hang with mango much right now.
@  found : (04 June 2015 - 12:37 PM) you're a wizard... my point is I don't care about what you eat. I do care that you are happy and healthy but wouldn't lecture anyone about how to achieve either. Having said that, you and I have a date with some beef brisket next time we get together.
@  Mason... : (04 June 2015 - 12:13 PM) So does discussing complicated issues with friends. I have lots of free time.

Dso Original Set Lists V. Gd Set Lists

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Poll: Original set lists v. GD set lists (85 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Voted Prefer DSO Original Set Lists (47 votes [55.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 55.29%

  2. Voted Prefer GD set Lists (38 votes [44.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.71%

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#1 Member_Rob Eaton_has left

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 07:42 PM

We are looking for input from our community as to the preference listed in this Poll. Thanks Rob

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 07:51 PM

We are looking for input from our community as to the preference listed in this Poll. Thanks Rob

Of the two listed I would rather have originals. How about some Terrapin Nation?
Good to see you back Rob.

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 10:32 PM

Hi Y'all, I think I like a mix between the two, I love both !!!!!!!!!!!

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but I would slave to learn the way,to sink your ship of fools.......

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 11:36 PM

thats a tough choice especially with the 69 "s popping up but if i had to pick either or it would have to be orignals

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 12:00 AM

6-7 years ago it was definitely recreations. Now, I get so pumped for originals because you could get anything and it will be unreal. Originals all the way.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 02:02 AM

:) :) :)

Robbie SO GOOD to see you ! I never really was one to go in wishing , hoping , or expecting ! Really if you ALL are feeling it then I know I will be ! Looking so forward to X MAS New Years LOVE ! I SO skipped MSG tonight :D :D


p. s. I'm pretty FREE tomorrow night too : )))))))))))))))))))

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:18 AM

I have never ever been disappointed with a DSO show , if asked to make a choice between recreation or original I would have to say original allowing YOU the band the spontaneity to take any given show the direction you feel at the time , no reason to be bound by what was in lieu of creating what is :0
besides you can always string together a few traditionals if the mood feels right..
regardless thank you for all you you do , it is beyond compare!

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 07:18 AM

Originals !!!

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 07:18 AM

My answer to the poll is originals but I love the Grateful Dead set lists too. I love it all. It doesn't matter to me what you guys play.

See ya New Years run, midwest, and a 2 of the Florida shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 08:46 AM

I have always preferred the original shows - in particular Terrapin Nation shows!

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 09:38 AM

I have always preferred the original shows - in particular Terrapin Nation shows!

good to see you on the boards ron ,hope you are doing well

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 11:50 AM

I love the originals, and want more and more of Terrapin Nation. My ideal would be for the band to book 2 dates at every venue, one for Terrapin Nation and the other for DSO.

But the recreations are much more important and are what made the band as successful as it is today. It is grad school for jam band musicians and "high" school for new (and old) Grateful Dead fans. Some other band will pick up the torch if it has become too heavy, but I would surely mourn that day.

Edited by Run Mary, 21 November 2010 - 11:56 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 01:42 PM

IMHO.....I'm a fan of both originals and recreations. But I must say that I enjoy the recreations a little bit more.

I think part of the bands selling point is "recreating" Grateful Dead setlist better than anybody else out there. I enjoy getting to a show and evaluating the drum setup, mics, guitars and piano/organ area to look for "clues" that may reveal something about the night to come. And for me it only gets better from that point. When the show starts I have a lot going through my head....Is this a recreation or an original? What year is being recreated? Do i already of a copy of the GD show? Can i pick out the exact setlist? But i'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to my GD music collection.

That being said, I'm not a big fan of knowing the show before i get there. :( I thought it was cool on 5/9/2007 but since....not my favorite. But that's just my opinion...

Either way :dsorocks:

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 02:48 PM

To be honest I come to the shows to hear the musicl, it doesn't matter to me whether the setlist is original or authentic. DSO rocks!!!

Nice to see Rob and taper ron on here :)

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 03:01 PM

i have mixed feelings i guess?

i prefer originals, but i really value the 60 something recreations ive attended. the recreations are great for GD geeks like myself to experience times that came before i even existed. i think the recreations also help reinforce a larger catalog of playable tunes, allowing the band to play songs they might not have suggested otherwise. However, being the GD geek that i am, as soon as i see the set up i know what potential songs could be played, which takes out some of the excitement. Also, there are a lot of songs that were played virtually non-stop from 72-92 (playin, promised, let it grow, etc) and the recreations reflect this. so after seeing 75 shows (70 of which had a promised land), im always excited about originals because they're chocked full of rarer (and JGB) songs

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:26 PM

My comments are similar to JFolks, The original concept of DSO was to recreate Grateful Dead Shows and for old fans of the GD that is a fun concept, but the band has matured over the years and the Original or Elective set lists allow for incredible creative work on the music, So I am a big fan of both. I do think we can use the Dead show base as a powerful tool to draw in fans at the right time in the right city, looking forward to the Cali run...see you all around the playground.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 12:27 AM

My comments are similar to JFolks, The original concept of DSO was to recreate Grateful Dead Shows and for old fans of the GD that is a fun concept, but the band has matured over the years and the Original or Elective set lists allow for incredible creative work on the music, So I am a big fan of both. I do think we can use the Dead show base as a powerful tool to draw in fans at the right time in the right city, looking forward to the Cali run...see you all around the playground.
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I'm with Dr. V and JFolks...

I prefer the elective setlists, but I also love the recreations...

With the electives, you just never know what your gonna get. Two prime examples; the Nokia show a while back when DSO did a Help>Slip>Stranger>Franklin's, and in AC the last time around, they did an Other Ones>Standing on the Moon>Other ones... I mean WOW... You really NEVER do know what's coming next... I love the originals because with the Dead, I feel, that certain era's have definate paterns with the first sets, and second sets and you can almost feel where they are going from song to song. With the electives, you get to hear such beautiful tunes that you normally wouldn't get out of a Dead show, i.e. Visions, Believe it or Not, Strange Man, Two Souls, Spoonful, ect....It took me a while to warm up to the elective setlists, because I was so excited to try and figure out what year they were playing, and to hear shows that were orgionaly played way before my time. While the electives are my favorite, I can understand the recreations people. It's what first brought me to see a DSO show, and brought me back many many times in the first few years I followed them around/

On the other hand, there are recreations that just leave me totally flabbergasted. I have yet to see them do a 69 show, but I absolutely love when they recreate the setlists from the 83-84 era.. A few that come to my mind; The Hampton 83 show they did at The E-Factory, the two night run Augusta 84 they did at the El Ray a while back, and the Warfield 83 show they did at the E-Factory (Scotty blew my socks off with the Mr. Fantasy>Hey Jude>Ripple filler). As much as I would love to see them play more elective setlists, looking at it from a business standpoint, I would have to say keep the recreations in heavy rotations at the bigger venue's and cities... The younger generation, who never got to see Jerry, want to hear shows they've heard on their bootlegs, and feel the era so to speak. From being at a shitton of DSO shows through out the years, I've heard the younger crowd comment on being a bit discouraged when they find out it's an elective show. Being that we are still all in a shitty economical cash-strapped times, I think the recreations would fill out the venue's more, therefore letting our beloved musicians have a bigger, more energy filled crowd to play to., which in my opinion, makes their musical energy flow more freely.

Either way, I'm happy to get to ANY DSO show that I can, and I KNOW I will enjoy every second that they are preforming onstage. Recreating, fuckin' excellent... Elective, even fuckin' better!!

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:44 AM

when it comes down to it, if I made a list of my top 5, maybe even 10 favorite shows, they would all be electives. There are certain eras of the GD that I would truly miss if recreations went away though (which I'm sure they never will), such as 88/89 and the early stuff (pre-73). to me its all just a collection of songs and there's just more variety in the electives which keeps it all fresh! There's also the added element of unpredictability and creativity which adds a different energy to those shows.

The west coast run will be all recreations and I certainly am not complaining about that one bit either! Its ALL good.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 03:00 AM

I enjoy the elective vibe and song selections much more. I have said this since 2002 when people were actually boycotting you for playing electives: Play whatever you want and what makes you happy the way you like to play it. So far so good. This is still my favorite band that is currently touring because yall happen to play GD music incredibly well in the traditional style. Don't sell yourself short by limiting the size of the canvas you have to work with. DSO has proven itself over and over exceeding most peoples expectations time and time again all over this land and beyond. You my friends are in the best position to take us all further right now. Herdy is Dead on when he talks about bringing out the recreations more strategicly. Kinda like Aces back to back and pay 'em back with one good hand. My vote: 1 recreation for every 5 herdlectives to start and see how that feels. Peace and thanks for all you all do regardless.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:06 AM

How about when I go to a show you all play me some tunes and I will smile, smile, smile...

if those tunes happen to be a show from 78 or 89 ... or a combo of songs that you tossed together like a salad (and I love salads) I am good either way....
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