Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted January 25, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Oh ya, I disagree that life is empty and just space. Its not all just temporal. Love is everlasting and despite my flaws and the so-called brokenness of my being, love fills my heart and my days. My days and my life are not empty but rich and full or at least when I choose them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Mango Posted January 25, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think the emptiness that she is talking about is quite rich, the essence of being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted January 25, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I don't like those semantics. That emptiness can represent universal love and understanding and it may be quite beautiful. I just won't choose to ever word it that way. I would certainly be willing to listen to authors, philosophers, and poets who express it as such, but to me, life has meaning and it is full. Without it, I think I would give up. But like I said, I am in need of reading and would love recommendations from SVT and starchild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducats Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I don't like those semantics. That emptiness can represent universal love and understanding and it may be quite beautiful. I just won't choose to ever word it that way. I would certainly be willing to listen to authors, philosophers, and poets who express it as such, but to me, life has meaning and it is full. Without it, I think I would give up. But like I said, I am in need of reading and would love recommendations from SVT and starchild. what makes u so sure life has meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted January 25, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Life is what you make it to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted January 25, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I agree with found. My world is full of despair, dark, and hopeless if I choose it to be. I know my life has meaning be cause I choose it to be so. They're are many here among us that have decided life is but a joke but you and I we've been through that and know this not our fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted January 25, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Sink beneath the waters to the coral sand below Now is the time of returning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Mango Posted January 26, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Echart Tolle...can't say that it will have the same effect on you as me but I find his message to be simple and relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted January 26, 2014 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 China Cat & Eleven = Match made in Heaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Island Bro Posted January 26, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Be here now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted January 26, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I definitely give a plus one for eckhart tolle's books and be here now... Especially be here now, favorite book of all time. It's a trip in and of itself. Eckhart tolle is more accessible and a bit easier to read. More narrative to it and shows how to draw the now into your life. Be here now is a bit more abstract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChemistry Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 This is why I stopped seeing Phil and Ratdog after many shows. However with Kimock I will attend the Ratdogs D.C. shows after DSO in Atlanta. I quit seeing Furthur also. Phil signing Terrapin, Franklins Tower and Shakedown were enough for me. Ego. He can't sign those songs. Bobby does alright with them. Went to Terrapin Crossroads last year and since I don't live there I won't be back. I really miss the late 70s and early 80s Grateful Dead. The Music and the Feel of the Community were real and pure. I don't get that anymore except around DSO. One reason I stopped seeing Phil was because of Jackie Green. There were some more reasons though. I get what I need from DSO and they tour enough I can see them from coast to coast if I want. I love a lot of there Venues. Occasionally I will see Phish if I can take the crowd. Got to be in the right mood; The Grateful Dead Music lost something real with the passing of Jerry that will never be the same ever again. I think for the most part I will stick with DSO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Dr. Barry Posted January 26, 2014 Advisory Board Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I found Eckhart Tolle very hard to read and follow. I really tried. I think his message is real and valuable. I think he needs a better Editor. Dr. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducats Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I agree with found. My world is full of despair, dark, and hopeless if I choose it to be. I know my life has meaning be cause I choose it to be so. They're are many here among us that have decided life is but a joke but you and I we've been through that and know this not our fate. oh yeah - when did you make that choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted January 26, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted January 26, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I found Eckhart Tolle very hard to read and follow. I really tried. I think his message is real and valuable. I think he needs a better Editor. Dr. B I agree that sometimes what he's saying comes across as a convoluted thought with how he bounces around but if you make it through be here now, eckhart tolle's books should be a breeze. I suppose be here now is more engaging as a reader. I found both to be very valuable. There's just so much to say about the now that it's easy to get lost... Just the nature of the beast. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taper Ron Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm more into that great philosopher, Kinky Friedman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted January 27, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 "Wherever you go, there you are." I prefer the movie version to the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted January 27, 2014 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm more into that great philosopher, Kinky Friedman! My favorites seem to rotate. Right now it's between Friedrich Hegel: "Poetry is the universal art of the spirit which has become free in itself and which is not tied down for its realization to external sensuous material; instead, it launches out exclusively in the inner space and the inner time of ideas and feelings." And one James Ambrose Johnson, Jr. (aka Rick James - BITCH!): "When I hit the stage, I become Rick James and that character exemplifies everything that it stands for: freedom, sex, love, power, truth. That's where I'm at. That's what I believe in. That's what I put out and that's what people feel." No shit. Some good thread drift here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Ammagamalin Crew Posted January 27, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Kent Nerburn's "Neither Wolf Nor Dog" and "The Wolf At Twilight" great wanderings with a surviving Lakota. Real peaceful readings of an autobiographical nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted January 27, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 does Bukowski count as a philosopher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advisory Board Dr. Barry Posted January 27, 2014 Advisory Board Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 If you YouTube Tolle there are lots of vids of him speaking. A bit easier to "get". Dr. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted January 27, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 does Bukowski count as a philosopher?The Dude abides. You did mean Lebowski, right?(I like ham on rye and women too, not so crazy about the post office.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP found Posted January 27, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 "nihilists! fuck me. say what you will about the tenets of national socialism but at least it's an ethos." walter and the dude both have some interesting outlooks. ham on rye is like a horror novel to me. women is just fun. post office is pretty zany and a fair representation of him as a novel writer. factotum strikes a chord with me in weird way. hollywood is hysterical. pulp is so different from all his other work, really fantastic read because it feels so fresh coming from buk. i really like his poetry and short stories. poetry is where you get more into his mind i think. but if i could recommend one thing to read by him, the captain is out to lunch and the sailors have taken over this ship. it's more or less a diary of his last few years alive. pretty insightful stuff and the illustrations by robert crumb are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP chuckvegas Posted January 27, 2014 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Nobody fucks with the Jesus. And you should look up the new book by Crumb and his wife, bringing their life up to date from post-Haight meeting to present day grandparenting. Good, clean fun and unflinching insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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