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yeah and Hillary Clinton is Mother Teresa...

I got a bridge to sell you...I'll give it to you cheap..you can take your pick...the one in Brooklyn or the one in the Golden Gate...

I'm just glad Hillary will be able to spend quality time now with her supporters and voting base of Beyoncé Jzey Bruce Springsteen LeBron Justin Timberlake...

Im just getting such a kick out of this banter ... raise your hand if your having fun ... just for the record and those scoring at home my hand is raised ...

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Trump likes celebrities too. Read letter from bill belicheck and said Brady supported him.

I think hilary celebrities may have hurt her. Springsteen pretends to be a champion of the people but he is so detached from the people's current struggle he comes off phony.

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Corporations do what's good for them. They will sell you anything you buy but they can't force you to buy. Change comes from the ground up. Not from the top. I support emissions standards by the way but I believe the consumer Iif educated and willing can set the standards. You really do believe government can fix all!

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Trump Idiot squad 2016...

NOW that can easily fit on a T-shirt. .. i will take mine in a Large. .. yep I have lost 20 pounds since October 1st !! ... been doing hot yoga 5 days a week Cardio 5 days a week and weights 3 days a week ... cutting out the beer and red wine as well ..

So yes make my Idiot shirt a Large ... names on the back ?... I say yes ... "TeacherMatt - Field Marshall of the Idiots"

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And further, if anyone actually cares enough about anything and wants to change someone's mind about their political choices, it would be more effective to come at it in a respectful way.

Realize that most people have their opinions set and are not going to be swayed by any opposing views.

Realize that anyone who may be open to a different view will be completely turned off if they perceive you as smug, holier than thou, self righteous, preaching, more intelligent, etc than they are. That's a recipe for the door being shut in your face.

If anyone really wanted to discuss a sensitive subject with the goal of swaying an opinion the only way is to come at it with respect for the other persons opinion and the validity that it holds for them. To drop any hyperbole and statements that are sure to offend. To avoid name calling and attributing stereotypes. Otherwise what you are doing is simply ranting to hear yourself rant. It may be cathartic but it won't win any hearts and minds. Those with opposing views hold them with the same conviction. Anyone who wants to effect change in others needs to try and do it in a way that might be effective.

Dr. B

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Idiot, idiotic promises, any person with a brain, crazy, remedial math, nonsense (x2), and legal idiot. That's just in one short post.

Ranting or trying to sway opinion? Even if just ranting to let out some steam, we are all friends here. Nobody likes to be called those things. You can be upset about politics, but I think best to go easy on insults and name calling.

Barry

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Rude just needs a little time to blow off steam and he will be OK. You could easily read his posts about the donor class and elite and think he was talking about Clinton, because her being perceived as such certainly hurt her. The biggest appeal Trump has is that he doesn't owe any political favors.

 

One thing that this election has certainly shown is that this is a diverse country with many differing opinions and that is what makes it great. I think a lot of the angst from the left is over the fact that they thought they had it in the bag and Tuesday was a formality, then got punched in the gut.

 

I think Rick hit the nail on the head, change needs to come from the ground up, people don't like to be told that they have to do something, better that they want to do something. My doctor tells me that I should try to make some changes to my diet and get more exercise. I'm trying because I know it will help me, but if I were ordered to a strict diet I would surely rebel.

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Do you really believe that half of the country that voted for Trump are:

Racists

Old racists

Jew haters

Old white men

White supremacists/white nationalists

Don't care about inner city people

Want blacks to die

Uneducated

Too dumb to reason with

Read Breitbart?

Do you think that most Trump voters believe in the above? Or even a substantial subset of Trump voters believe in the above? Or maybe a very small fringe believe in some of the above?

Is it possible that very intelligent people voted for Trump? People that you even know? People that subscribe to none of the above? People that think about the issues, love their country? Love their children? People who made a choice between 2 flawed candidates? People with no hatred or malice? People that believe that they made the best choice they had. A choice you disagree with.

I don't think that any more than a fringe of Trump supporters believe in those things above. I don't believe that any more than a fringe of Hillary/Bernie supporters are communists or socialists or anarchists. I don't think that the radical fringes define the average voters. I believe that most people are voting for the person who they believe will do the best for our country.

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No I don't Dr B.  But I believe a large portion does.

 

Here's why I really despise the GOP.  They want a populace that doesnt know or understand the facts.

 

Lets take Planned Parenthood.  95% of republican voters have zero clue about them.  Let's look at it from a doctor's perspective.  Planned parenthood performs medical services that can be billed to medicare and medicaid such as STD screenings and the like.  Insurance reimburses them for these services.  The entire GOP wants to not pay them for these services like they pay any doctors because they also perform abortions.  Imagine that the GOP doesnt like a service you perform and then says we wont reimburse you for any services, not just the ones we dont like.  Now medical services become political.  They used their uneducated populace who thinks that we are giving PP money for abortions.  This is reckless.

 

Lets take another issue like gay marriage.  The GOP wants to appoint an ultra conservative judge to overturn this so that the gays do not enjoy the same rights as others do even though it has ZERO effect on heterosexuals.  They want to force their Sharia law on the rest of America.  They say states rights but we see what happens when states handle their own civil rights issues.  And why should a state government be able to infringe on the minority's rights?  If they did, then blacks still couldnt come into many restaurants in the south. 

 

With the biggest wage gap in years, the GOP with a straight face proposes to cut the taxes on the wealthiest while cutting food stamps and other services to the poor.  Trump started out differently on this issue proposing higher taxes on the rich but flipped when the GOP was going to withdraw support.  Then he comes up with the largest proposed tax cut in history.  Deficits be damned. 

 

The entire GOP platform is only targeted towards the extremely wealthy or the religious zealots who want to impose their beliefs on America.  Abortion could very well become illegal again which will lead to more deaths of women.  Voting rights act laws that protected unscrupulous states who created policies to target poor voters will again be enacted.  Environmental protection and clean water and air acts will be repealed.  Anything that is good for the people but may cost billionaires a few percent will be gone. 

 

Billion dollar corporations help get right to work laws enacted to destroy unions in poor areas.  The only reason these people can make a living is because the bargaining power of unions and they want these destroyed. 

 

The GOP passed a law in 2003 that said Medicare is not allowed to negotiate drug prices with the drug companies.  They are required to pay whatever the drug companies want to charge.  This is one of the most blatant frauds they have committed.  There is a reason drug companies made over 50 billion last year.  The GOP believes if anything funnels money to the rich it is good.  Im not saying the dems are angels, but this is some messed up stuff.

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Do you really believe that half of the country that voted for Trump are:

Racists

Old racists

Jew haters

Old white men

White supremacists/white nationalists

Don't care about inner city people

Want blacks to die

Uneducated

Too dumb to reason with

Read Breitbart?

Do you think that most Trump voters believe in the above? Or even a substantial subset of Trump voters believe in the above? Or maybe a very small fringe believe in some of the above?

Is it possible that very intelligent people voted for Trump? People that you even know? People that subscribe to none of the above? People that think about the issues, love their country? Love their children? People who made a choice between 2 flawed candidates? People with no hatred or malice? People that believe that they made the best choice they had. A choice you disagree with.

I don't think that any more than a fringe of Trump supporters believe in those things above. I don't believe that any more than a fringe of Hillary/Bernie supporters are communists or socialists or anarchists. I don't think that the radical fringes define the average voters. I believe that most people are voting for the person who will do the best for our country.

B

 

I think a lot of us are just floored that so many people were able to look past all of this stuff and choose the guy to lead and represent our country to the world. All politics aside, these characteristics are too horrible for some of us to accept. But he won. Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile and hope for the best, or even just a little good.

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I wanna say to my sisters and my brothers
Keep the faith
When the storm flies and the wind blows
Go on at a steady pace

When the battle is fought and the victory's won
We can all shout together we have overcome
We'll talk to the Father and the Son
When we make it to the promised land

If we walk together little children
We don't ever have to worry
Through this world of trouble
We gotta love one another

Let us take our fellow man by the hand
Try to help him to understand
We can all be together forever and ever
When we make it to the promised land

Our bible reads
Thou shall not be afraid
Of the terror by night
Nor the arrow that flies by day

Nor for the pestilence
That waiteth in the darkness
Nor for the destruction
That waiteth in the noon-day hour

If we walk together little children
We don't ever have to worry
Through this world of trouble
We gotta love one another

Let us take our fellow man by the hand
Try to help him to understand
We can all be together forever and ever
When we make it to the promised land

This world is not our home
We're only passing through
Our trail is all made up
Way beyond the blue

Let us do the very best that we can
While we're travelin' through this land
We can all be together shakin' a hand
When we make it to the promised land

If we walk together little children
We don't ever have to worry
Through this world of trouble
We gotta love one another

Let us take our fellow man by the hand
Try to help him to understand
We can all be together forever and ever
When we make it to the promised land

When we make it to the promised land
Make it to the promised land
(Sisters)
Make it to the promised land
(Little children)
Make it to the promised land

Make it to the promised land
(Children)
Make it to the promised land
We can all be together forever and ever
When we make it to the promised land

Walk together little children
We won't ever have to worry
Through this world of trouble
We gotta love one another

Let us take our fellow man by the hand
Try to help him to understand
We can all be together forever and ever
When we make it to the promised land

We can all be together forever and ever
When we make it to the promised land

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Final numbers still trickling in,,

So far Clinton received approx 400,000 more votes in this country than Trump...

Time to let go of the Electoral College system if we have any notion of a straight up, fair system of voting for president...

Not a partisan issue whatsoever...just simple logic that anyone can follow---majority rule, please

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Sorry if I offended people. This was the worst political season in many of our lives with so much hatred. I think this whole thing may have upset me more than I realized. I need to quit reading online news. I've also scoured too many sites like Breitbart and the commebts represent the worst of America. So much hatred and vitriol and violent talk that I've taken too much to heart. I read all the racist hate speech on those sites and I've projected too much. too many are celebrating this election as the beginning of a white supremacy agenda which I know will not be the reality. I'm also in an area where I see the deplorable people too often. People are open with their racism in rural KY. They see this as a victory of whites over other races. The hate for obama here was mostly race based. I'm sorry for any comments that any of you thought were directed at any of you. They weren't.

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