Forum MVP John A Posted January 17, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Article comes complete with a vintage shot of DSO. I have trouble believing that John meant this quote to come off quite as it reads, because it carries a tinge of "I wasted 13 years stunting my musical growth". We went from a Tuesday night house band at a club in Chicago to touring the whole country within 18 months,” he recalls. “The Dark Star Orchestra (DSO) wasn’t something I did to start a business. It was something I did for fun. But it ended up causing me to put my artistic life on hold for 13 years. http://www.marinij.com/arts-and-entertainment/20160114/paul-liberatores-lib-at-large-no-longer-a-jerry-garcia-clone-john-kadlecik-happy-being-himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Mango Posted January 17, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Whatever. I still think he sounded better 5 years ago than now. Just my opinion. Edit: reflecting on this statement it seems a little harsh. Guy should be allowed to be and play the way that makes him feel good. And frankly I've hardly kept up with him in the last few years to even know how he sounds. Missed his show the other night locally due to some family logistics. I love John. He changed my life in a big a way and helped usher me (along with the rest of the band) into the land of the Dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted January 18, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Being in most bands will hold u back artistically. Only in solo work can u completely be free. U also have to make a living and guessing that's harder for him atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted January 20, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm just grateful that I got to see DSO with John so many times......maybe 25. It's too bad that he feels that the band stifled him. I've seen the JK Band a few times in the DC area, and I frankly get bored because I perceive that his playing has lost adventure, edge and intensity. He really ripped it up when he was in DSO......it was awesome to witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tea Posted January 20, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm just grateful that I got to see DSO with John so many times......maybe 25. I perceive that his playing has lost adventure, edge and intensity. He really ripped it up when he was in DSO......it He can still bring it but I feel like he plays it safe too often.I saw him last month and it was good - he was playing well. More than a few times he was really gettin it cranked up to the level I like it at and then we wind in down a peg or 2. I love JK and always will since I found my lost music through him. That said: Like most people, he's a tad afraid of runaway freight-trains. DSO now seems like they'd all race to jump on one rather than avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Mango Posted January 20, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 He probably doesn't realize that his band (Dso) is taking the music to places that he was unable to drive to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP comesatime Posted January 20, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I love JK , but not that high horse he climbed up on ... that quote sounds like Phil and Bob whispering in his ear for 5 years in during Furthur , but as Aaron sais , " whatever" ... Going to see him next month at the Warfield in SF with the JGB , hoping he brings on the JERRY ,,, and fuck that article lol ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted January 20, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 He is an arrogant know it all ... he is never wrong ... stuck on himself ... etc the only reason I wasted my time posting on this thread is because someone wasted there time posting this article ... F him ... DSO rips it fine without him ... Mr. Gorbachev tear down this thread !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP John A Posted January 21, 2016 Author Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 the only reason I wasted my time posting on this thread is because someone wasted there time posting this article ... Nothing quite like good 'ol Matt in Angry Teacher mode. I will attempt to not offend your sensibilities in future postings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Teacher Matt Posted January 21, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 But you did like my spin using the Reagan quote I hope ...all good in the hood !! zing zang zoom ... Florida run starts 3 weeks from today .. bing bang boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP August West Posted January 21, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 He probably doesn't realize that his band (Dso) is taking the music to places that he was unable to drive to. Unable and Unwilling. He flat out refused to play certain songs. But if you wanted to hear Touch or Liberty he's your guy. I saw JK play lots and lots of shows with DSO. IMO he can't sniff Mattson's jockstrap. The band has climbed to new heights without him. He left them high, and dry. I'm not saying anybody else wouldn't have jumped at that oppurtunity, but they would have jumped with class. He's like school on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted January 21, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm too new so only know Mattson at the lead. Having seen Jeff tear it up, it's hard to imagine anyone else at the Jerry spot. I've listened to some JK DSO and the vocals are spot on but Jeff is just heads above everyone else replicating that Jerry sound. I think jk does an amazing job of the light Jerry noodling, but once u get to the insanely technical parts no one currently can do what Mattson does. On another funny note I saw some forums where people were talking about the dead and they were all saying how great JM was. I made a comment saying I agree that Jeff is the most talented Jerry guitarist there is. They were like umm who? I'm talking about John Mayer. I was like ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP August West Posted January 21, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I know that JK show at the Rams Head is regarded by some as the " Holy Grail " of DSO shows. I can name 5 shows that I attended with Jeff on lead, off the top of my head that would make that show look like childs play. It's a whole different ball game with Jeff. And as much as I loved Kevin, Skip is just on another level. That surely factors in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP 2muchfun Posted January 21, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I cried in 99 and 09 First when he sung Loser second when his lack of sincere gratitude to band was revealed to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Tom Banjo Posted January 21, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I try not worry about politics and personal relationships. I do not want to presume to know how and why a man acts because I've never walked in their shoes. I've had my finer moments in life and I've certainly had my lesser. All I can speak on is the impact jk and dso had on my life. They were the catalyst for me joining this community and getting to know this music. I still believe the music they made together was truly great. He is a great guitar player and jerry vocalist. I'm not much for the comparisons but nothing about dso has changed since his departure. They continue to deliver the truest representation of the sound and feel of this music. They continue to get better tour after tour. They still play consistently great shows night in and night out. DSO is the best they've ever been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian NJ Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 jk was a master at copying Jerry. if gd was a copy of themselves they would not have lasted 30 years. jm and the rest of dso are masters at copying the essence of what the dead were about, bringing the music where it has never been before. Always out doing themselves. Better than Ever!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Waters Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 To imply that DSO did not have Transcendent shows with JK, and that the Band is vastly superior without him is completely ridiculous in my opinon. I have seen mind bending shows with both JM and JK...but more of the mind benders during the JK years. Just my opinion. Perhaps there is no love lost , and maybe the guy rubs people the wrong way. I have no idea and I am not an insider. But that certainly does not take away the fact that he co-founded the Band, was a key ingredient in the success thereof, and was and is an absolute monster of a player. To suggest otherwise is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian NJ Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 jk is a great musician~ coming from a non musician. some people prefer hamburger over meatloaf. There is only so much you can do with hamburger, I prefer meatloaf where the possibilities are endless. it all comes down to what you prefer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted January 22, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I got 3 69 shows last year. Check mate!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP acududeman Posted January 22, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 To imply that DSO did not have Transcendent shows with JK, and that the Band is vastly superior without him is completely ridiculous in my opinon. I have seen mind bending shows with both JM and JK...but more of the mind benders during the JK years. Just my opinion. Perhaps there is no love lost , and maybe the guy rubs people the wrong way. I have no idea and I am not an insider. But that certainly does not take away the fact that he co-founded the Band, was a key ingredient in the success thereof, and was and is an absolute monster of a player. To suggest otherwise is absurd. Like I posted earlier, I'm just grateful that I have gotten to see DSO with both JK & JM so many times. They are both fairly brilliant at their craft, in my opinion. Cherish this while it lasts.....nothing is permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP Rude Posted January 22, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 so maybe it's not a checkmate as a DSO touring hall of famer needed to remind me. I overindulge in absolutes as anyone who has ever debated me politically knows. I love Jerry's voice. If I want to cry I can put on like a road and listen to Jerry drip emotion as I "what if" my life. But at a show if I have to choose between musical quality or vocal I'll go with musical. Jeff may almost blow out his vocal chords trying to hit the falsetto in doin that rag with his deep voice, but the precision playing with elite speed and total control he achieves is just breathtaking to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindman Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Some of the comments in this strain disappoint me. I have huge appreciation for JK, his history in co-founding DSO and the scores of amazing shows I got to enjoy with JK in DSO. Ain't no time to hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP bs69 Posted January 26, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have been blessed to see both numerous times. JK was obviously very strong with the Jerry ballads and Jeff is strong on the early stuff. Likewise, Scott was brilliant doing the Brent era and RB is great with the Keith era. I do find it interesting that most on here think that the band is the best it's ever been now (and I don't disagree), usually there is a lot of nostalgia for the old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Command Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Let us not forget that without JK, there would be no DSO. For many of us, this was the beginning of our next GD chapter. I am grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum MVP PoetryGirl Posted February 23, 2016 Forum MVP Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Maybe JK iwants to stand alone as an artist since he is no longer with the band. Pics of him show up on Instagram frequently as #dso etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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