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Long trip from state college was well worth it. It was nice having the drinking folks away from the stage, great crowd, unbelievable show. Three weeks of recovery and then NY run...

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A great show and a great way to end the tour. I also learned two things being, 1) Little black guitars can make a lot of great sounds without breaking, and 2) College is great when you are in it, but seeing a DSO show with college kids attending can be a true test of ones patience, they certainly know how to scream in all the wrong places!!

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It's been a while since I've seen a Grateful Dead related show. Alot of the cover bands I heard in the past left much to be desired, but you folks are truly an exception. I love 70's Dead shows and last night was a real treat. Looking foward to seeing you again, thanks for a great first show :D . Weather Report

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ok, here's my take on last night.

ok first set...typical for the period..peppy, short versions with a few of my unfaves (stagger & heart of me)...but oh, well.

second set, not great on paper, per se...but those guys made it work, as usual. Rob's version of the lyrics on JBG was pretty hilarious...just laughin' witcha, guy ;)

as far as Toad's...fuck that place and that crowd.

First set I was squashed between dirty, smelly tweakers (that appeared to have stumbled off the lot in the mid-80's even though they weren't even born then) who couldn't stand up and some stoic group of Stephen Colbert clones that just wanted to stand front and center with their arms folding "observing" in a very Yale manner. Sweaty smelly rock and a hard place.

after set break things opened up a teeeenie bit and I could move my arms a bit (after jacking some dude in the back of the head for continually backing into me in a drunken stupor after I asked him 2X to cool it). I sure felt sorry for most of the little honeys that got bounced around (except for the two dirty, not in a good way, bitches that kept plowing up to the front, only to see a "friend" in the back and leave again.)

Give my Higher Ground any day.

Max

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Strangely enough my friend I lived in Burlington, VT for almost 10 years and have seen my fair share of Higher Ground shows. The rest of the time I,ve been in the New Haven area. I must say despite all this negativity I see posted about the venue, I think Toad's is one of the coolest places to see a show. You can get away with alot in there, security is pretty lax. There's always drunken assholes in any bar, some nights are worse than others. Ever been to Congo's in NYC ? Now there's a place that sucks, everyone who tried to burn the one night I was there ended up on the sidewalk quite forcefully, at a reggae show no less. I'm told the Webster in Hartford is equally as oppressive. I will admit smaller crowds make for a mellower show experience, Deep Bananna played last week to about half as many people and there was definitely more room to dance. Maybe you should check out a less popular show there sometime or simply stick to the venues you like. I've been going to Toad's since the 80's & seen more shows there than I can count, it really can be a fun place.

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ok, here's my take on last night.

ok first set...typical for the period..peppy, short versions with a few of my unfaves (stagger & heart of me)...but oh, well.

second set, not great on paper, per se...but those guys made it work, as usual. Rob's version of the lyrics on JBG was pretty hilarious...just laughin' witcha, guy ;)

as far as Toad's...fuck that place and that crowd.

First set I was squashed between dirty, smelly tweakers (that appeared to have stumbled off the lot in the mid-80's even though they weren't even born then) who couldn't stand up and some stoic group of Stephen Colbert clones that just wanted to stand front and center with their arms folding "observing" in a very Yale manner. Sweaty smelly rock and a hard place.

after set break things opened up a teeeenie bit and I could move my arms a bit (after jacking some dude in the back of the head for continually backing into me in a drunken stupor after I asked him 2X to cool it). I sure felt sorry for most of the little honeys that got bounced around (except for the two dirty, not in a good way, bitches that kept plowing up to the front, only to see a "friend" in the back and leave again.)

Give my Higher Ground any day.

Max

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Well...Red Bank is booked and I have been told that Rams Head is not a venue to be missed so i may take the run down.

NYE with the children watching Closing of Winterland thinking about the insane time you all will be having..I expect many phone calls that night lol

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i can't believe I am saying this, but...maybe it is because the security is sooo lax that it sucked Thurs. night for me. At one point at set break, I was standing by the "fence" to the bar area. There was a cocktail chickie selling cans of Bud Lt. out of a cardboard 12-pack.

I got a beer and 2 songs into the 2nd set, a HUGE security guy took my beer and said "No way" that I was sold it in that area. when he told me to leave the floor, I asked him to just take my beer ( 20 seconds after I had squatted to fire up my oney). Whatever, guy..like 10 people around me also had beer as well.

At the star of the show, there were a few reaaaally dirty, smelly wasted dudes that were literally falling on people and scrreeeeaming the words intentionally out of tune and smashing into ALOT of people (mosh pit is a fair assessment). At HG they'd've been booted PRONTO.

Don't get me wrong I like to burn in the show and all, but even at places like HG, you can do it if yer sly. ( the shitter stall is perfect, btw)

sorry dog, just a difference of tastes I guess.^ :rolleyes:

edited for spelling...

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I cannot speak for the character of crowds that inhabit the places DSO plays in that I have not been to that many shows, yet, but it seems to me in any venue there are always bound to be undesirables. Toads place certainly had its share, as did some of the other places I have been. Those two chicks referred to in previous posts however I will never forget, and the scratches on my arm from there smelly hairdos they were using to fight their way will serve to remind me of them for the next day or two. That said an apology to Chefmax, I think I am one of the "steven colbert" individuals you were referring to. I believe you pushed right into me as you were being escorted out, and until I saw the security guard that was pushing you out, I was less than receptive, and I do apologize. I appreciate being referred to as a Yale type, but trust me I saw way too many Dead shows when was in college and I imagine I would never have made it at Yale, and after some of the individuals I experienced from Yale Thurs. nite, I am quite happy to have never attended. I will go back to Toad's should they ever return...............

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I wasn't there thursday night but the theatre scene is so much better I think .When a venues main objective is to make money off the booze you get that type of crowd.My wife & me decided recently next year to think alittle more about the type of venue we want to see the band perform in.Maybe not as many shows but better places. peace-steve. p. s. remember John Lennon.

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First set I was squashed between dirty, smelly tweakers (that appeared to have stumbled off the lot in the mid-80's even though they weren't even born then) who couldn't stand up and some stoic group of Stephen Colbert clones that just wanted to stand front and center with their arms folding "observing" in a very Yale manner. Sweaty smelly rock and a hard place.

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I am all for people enjoying a show in their own way but those girls - what a nightmare! Clearly they were acting for their own effect and their buzz was about screwing up everyone else

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LOFL!!! ^ & ^^.......

vbf3 & pwpolk, please stand and absorb all you want...I have no right to bitch about that.

I wasn't escorted out...thankfully; just my $4 can of warm budlight was asked to leave the floor so I handed it to the neckless gentlemen with the penlight and kept on dancin'. <--now thats deadication folks. B)

I was the dude in the Boston Bruins/Stealie tshirt that just wanted to shake his bones in a sardine can.

Now, I have been to alot of "Toad's-like" venues all over the country, for bands from DSO to DRI to GWAR and although I would concede to the Few Bad Seeds Everywhere Theory...the dip shits on 12/6 took the cordon bleu considering the scene.

I am proud that I didn't cripple a...I just can't even call them hippies. I tried to remind myself that many years ago, I was a trippin' fool that probably transgressed on my elders a wee bit...and survived.

No offense meant fellas, I mean Brad Pitt and John Holmes are my two favorite actors...and Colbert is the mack-daddy of dry wit (my forte ;) ).

nwnjsteve...i am with you on the theatre thing...as I was walking back to the hotel I said..." I can't believe there isn't a better venue in the Yale megalopoly than THAT shithole. Like a theater or something.

I dont think I have ever come closer to kicking a chick in the nuts as I was then.

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Hey Chefmax:

Thanks for the return post and no offense taken whatsoever. vbf3 and I were having a laugh at the fact that we may have been posted about (our 15 minutes of fame). Really enjoy getting into some chats on this thing and even better when it gets rukked up a bit. Sidebar...can you imagine what the it would have been like to have the internet to post to during the Dead years - oh man there would have been alot to talk about.

For all my grandstanding, I cant agree more with you about Toads. I thought it was great how accesable the band was but also were bugged by annoying over-served punks (those darn kids with thier long hair and that rock and roll!). I said after Nokia that there used to be a Tapers section at shows...now they should have a "talkers" section....its called the Lobby.

Its a double edged sword - there is nothing like DSO or how the Dead were in front of a high energy crowd but a high energy crowd is made up of lots of individuals going nuts and inevitably one of them is banging into you and screaming in your ear. (vbf3 is like a magnet for them). On the other side of the spectrum are some of these great theater gigs - we had a blast at Leihigh in the summer but if there was a downside it was that the crowd was too well behaved - almost made you feel like you had to sit - and that just does not fly.

There is definatly a happy middle and it is great when that all comes together. I suspect that I will take whatever venue is thrown at me in the future as I love seeing this band but I will have some preferences. Thanks again for the post and look forward to catching you at a show in the near future. (just look for the guys up front with thier arms folded) :rofl:

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Well I think all I can add to all that has been said is that I will bring the can of lysol spray should there ever be another DSO/Toads convergence next year. Also happy to buy ya a cold can of beer chefmax, but that pwpolk fellow is on his own. :)

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