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Man my I don't like phish comment sparked a pretty active thread. Didn't expect that.

89/05/06 Frost Amphitheatre, Palo Alto, CA Jack Straw, Peggy-o, Walkin' Blues, TLEO, Race Is On, West LA Fadeaway, Little Light, Queen Jane, China>Rider. LTGTR, Hey Pocky Way, Samson and Delilah, Ship of Fools, Playin' In the Band>Eyes of the World>D>S>Take You Home>The Wheel> Miracle>Wharf Rat>Round and Round> Not Fade Away. E: Black Muddy River. Happy Anniversary Mountain Top. Saturday afternoon at the Frost. Praise DSO.

There's good heads in Wyoming, glad to see the shows scheduled.

I would be all over heading to these unique shows…always pining for a 3-pack, anywhere…especially out west in a beautiful and unique spot but gosh darn it this the only weekend that I’m fully committed to for Oregon Country Fair (DSO and members have played there in years gone by)…a soul nourishing event that I’ve been on board for since my first in ‘88… I sure wish Jackson hole landed the following weekend but alas…that’s how it goes sometimes! clearly will be a unique and magical weekend!

Though not from the band,,here’s some solid confirmation for ya: https://snowkingmountain.com/king-concerts/ maybe official band announcements by June? 😂 oh and tix went on sale today! Just follow the link above…Looks like $120 for 3 day pass for GA 😉

Thanks to all involved for the OT discussion. I enjoy learning from others’ point of view. I think I am most surprised by yours, Greg, in that you have never even LISTENED to a Phish song in your life. That in itself is fascinating to me. It’s easy to understand that some people just do not like them, and I also get a bit of the haters with an air of competition with the Grateful Dead (“there can be only one” mentality haha), but since I know how much you all love GD and the greatest band playing GD music today, Dark Star Orchestra, I would humbly suggest that you at least just experience some Phish for yourself. Not because Phish could ever “replace” GD/DSO, but because it is absolutely a derivative style whose primary influence is the music you so passionately adore. Same with me, of course. And caveat here that none of my views are intended to change anyone’s mind, but only to share in the event that someone finds it interesting. I make no presumptions with this thread (although I did know going in what MC’s view was, given his parenthesized comment in his thread about partners digging our music; I didn’t want to hijack that thread but it did prompt me to start this one. Thanks for that share, Tom.) Like many of you, I had neither time nor interest in Phish while Garcia still roamed the Earth in human form. I found their vibe sophomoric and I only have so much bandwidth for music in my day, and that time is either GD or JGB haha. I tend to be an open-minded individual, but was definitely a skeptic when it came to Phish. I had already been a huge Widespread Panic fan, so between the GD and them I was fully sated for awesome music. But in 1996 I did see my first Phish show, and it was a party. Different and therefore not as comfortable as the 93 Dead shows I attended lol, but similar. I agree with a few of you that have found more similarities with WSP fans and Deadheads than with Phish. I get that vibe as a general stereotype as well. But generalized stereotypes don’t always apply, of course. Over the years I have encountered plenty of kynd, like-minded spirits and proven Deadheads at Phish shows. Some of which are huge DSO fans, like us. So I saw a spattering of Phish shows in the late 90’s and early 00’s, then I got married and adulted for a while, only seeing GD-based bands, including of course DSO. I periodically listened to Phish but never took my time to attend their shows. An itch I didn’t feel the need to scratch, if you will. Fast forward to 2021, and for a variety of reasons,I did attend a show out here in PHX, 18 years after my last one. It was a much more developed sound and therefore experience. The band had obviously written new music and changed/gotten better (not to say that they weren’t talented all along in my view, because these are uber-talented musicians by any reasonable measure). It was thick and funky and the space hit right. So I subsequently deadicated more of my time to exploring their catalog, which obviously includes a vast span of live music, again influenced by the GD. So again with zero presumptions in place, I will tell anyone brave enough to read this far that this recent Spring Tour of theirs was fantastic. They played 8 shows between Seattle, Berkeley, and Los Angeles. I went to the six California shows. Berkeley with a dear old friend who happens to be a long-time taper that some of you may know. Hollywood with a guy is as close to being a brother as you can get without being related. Needless to say, we partied and boogied hard (albeit quietly in the taper section haha). The following videos are from the Greek, one from each second set. If you have a 4K screen and some way to get loud, I suggest you do so. The Tweezer is 44 minutes and goes into Simple for another 19 or so. These are not simply spectacular because of their length, but if you want to see how they have transformed, buckle in. These songs are over 30 years old and they do have some of that goofy lyric thing happening (they are not Gamehendge, however). But these both have jams that get to be QUITE different and are anything but playful. Strongly recommend anyone here to party this Tweezer->Simple this weekend. If you have not heard Phish lately, prepare to be surprised. If you only watch one of these songs below, let it be the entire Tweezer. Around the 25-minute mark is not bad lol. The next offering is Fuego, a newer tune relative to the first two. This also goes places, swampy and funky places. From night 3 is Set Your Soul Free into What’s the Use? If you are going to experience this, settle in for the entirety with an open mind. None of this is Help/Slip/Frank, as no one else can ever supplant our first (only?) true love, but this is some quality and interesting music that is akin to GD in many ways. And I think I’m reasonably qualified to say that this is not some ordinary “jam band”. Interested in any reflections on any of what I’ve shared, and obviously these recent examples of what Phish is up to. Peace DD

Phish is a person you bang for fun. A little skanky, but fun. GD is marriage material. Lol