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we had to pick a beach week months ago with her working at a hospital now and everyone going on vacations in the summer. A big excursion like this needs lots of advance notice for flights and planning. I remember Barraco at our camp at Jubilee telling us they were playing redrocks 14 months in advance to make sure we all made it and pretty much everyone we knew did make it with that 14 month heads up. I’d have to think that with a year notice on this that it would be like jubilee and we’d have 100 friends there. We’d have for sure done this with enough notice vs 3k cost on a last minute RT flight for 2 and even at 3 months, flying 4th of July week is last minute. We wanted to make this happen but alas it wasn’t in the cards. Unfortunately she can’t get off Asheville weekend b/c other social workers already took that Friday off and she’s the only one on her floor. We need more DSO but what we really need is notice so she puts in for her PTO before others.

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A younger friend of mine was trying to turn me on to them in 1993 when I thought it was whimsical compared to being 10 yrs into dead shows. They played the Cincinnati zoo that year and it was way overcrowded compared to the week before when I took my sister to her first Emmylou show at the same venue. I was turning to ELH right about them cause dead shows were getting crowded. Phish continued to play Cincy moving to the coliseum and doing two night stands where my touring Dead friend talked me into going. It started to get better at a Blossom show when I was wearing my Zeppelin 77 shirt and they ripped a Good Times Bad Times for an encore. Those Deercreek shows 2021 and 2022 had the best shakedown setup and security was super kind. The band has gotten better. Trey and Mike have been able to stay together for Phish and do their own bands on the side. I'm not into the salsa jams but when they opened the third night at Deercreek, tour closer, with While My Guitar Gently Weeps it was quite the celebration. Damn shame they are doing Burgettsburg instead of DC this year , but we're going and finally got pavilion seats for both nights in the lottery. That lawn in Alpine last year was rough.

Do you listen to Phish? Do you go to their shows? If not, why not? Share any views you have on them. DD

Ive seen phish at least 25 times. It was a high school fad I grew out of. I was at Coventry. I was in Hampton when they came back. Saw one recently with nick and Ellie a few years back at Dicks. It doesn't do it for me at all anymore. Of my high school music loved I prefer Dave Mathew's to phish. Maybe the musicianship isn't as good but the lyrics and writing seem much more heartfelt and connection worthy. Phish is a big joke to me know.

Last time DSO played the Taft Theatre in Cincy, this happened to me. The ticket itself was like $17, but the ticketmaster/live nation "FEE" was $25 or more. Insanity

"There are many other great types of music I'd rather listen to than Phish or other jambands" Absolutely

i have a bunch of friends who are super into Phish. i've warmed to them over the years, even went to a show on the beach in AC a couple years back. I had fun...nothing particularly profound about it for me. the people i talk to who love Phish always harp on the same thing- they take the jams places the dead never did. and sure, it's true. Doesn't mean I like the places, or that they have any particular depth to me. it's all wild and crazy, party music. Long jams, yes- but if you skip ahead 10 minutes in a jam it very well may sound exactly the same. Boring jams IMO. Not at all Mutative like the GD. Not at all deep or sweet. Horrible singing IMO. Not a fan of Trey. I do like the rest of the band decently enough, esp the keyboard player. I'm happy people love Phish. I don't. I'd rather go to a SCI show anyday, however their jams are pretty boring to me too. In the realm of "jam" music the GD is enough for me. There are many other great types of music I'd rather listen to than Phish or other jambands.

5/4/77 Palladium NYC The bus came by there 46 years ago today I got on Thats when it all began

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. That being said, when I have steak, I have Filet Mignon. I have managed to never hear a single Phish tune. 43 years in and I’m still searching through the Grateful Dead archives. Maybe after I get through all of that but for now, river roll, roll, roll.

Just got back from seeing their 3 night run in Hollywood. Phish is kind of like black licorice. Not everyone likes it but those that do really do. They take me to similar places that the Deads music does. First saw them in 1992 in Vermont. 30 years and 31 shows later I'm probably more into them now than I ever have been. The bands love of the Dead is well documented. On the other side of the coin I know a lot of heads that can't stand Phish. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I just do not enjoy jam band genre being whimsical.

I’m hoping I get lucky and get a couple Midwest weekend runs when I don’t have tickets to be out of town somewhere else. DSO is my favorite show by a mile, but jubilee is all I have on the horizon on that front.

I certainly do not begrudge them their channel 29 on Sirius but I miss Jam On.

I was a teenager listening to the Grateful Dead in the early 90s, and a friend suggested I might like Phish, since I liked “alternative” music and the Grateful Dead. I bought “A Live One”, and got some live shows on tape, like 7/25/92. I liked it causally, but the whole humor in music thing doesn’t do it for me, so if you play me guitar solos and jams, I’d prefer that. After the 1998 Further Festival/ The Other Ones tour ended in shoreline, I did a smattering of Phish summer tour dates making my way back east. Haven’t gone to a show since pretty much ambivalent but occasionally listen to select concert jams of theirs from 1992-1998

I’d say hire Hardpan for logistics and tour announcements…I mean,,,he’s quicker than anyone else in this case! Seriously…early May…and still July dates and other summer shows yet to be announced?! This year looking like a C- for getting the full summer tour sched rolled out…I know there’s tons of details to be pinned down and more than I can understand about show announcements but most people have already locked in their summer plans and spent $ for shows and festivals…not to whine,,but……. oh well,,the shows will be kicking ass anyway.

We booked a cabin in Jackson hole for those dates.

In 97 a security dude at a Deercreek campground told me that he hated the phish kids because there were always fights and theft when they came to town. I held on to that bad energy grudge for a long time. Then a buddy said he had free tix to see them at Deercreek in ‘21 and it was his birthday so I said what the hell. I had a good time. I’ll do the Deercreek run yearly and maybe a spare weekend run here or there. They are never gonna have me in tears like the Hunter poetry and Jerry licks, but I seem to have a good enough time. Luke likes going, Sammy still refuses. 🤣