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We will lose what we have here unless we police ourselves. This is a seminal moment. I HAVE ZERO PROBLEM walking over & getting a security guard and ending someone's rampage before it hurts others. K2 is an issue in New Haven. There were 20+ overdoses in a park this summer when someone was giving the K2 away. Evidently Fentanyl has come to town. I have arm barred several show goers in Vermont about to land face first on their opiate/alcohol mix. This is UNACCEPTABLE. But Penns Peak.... that is like a DSO Holy Ground. THIS IS A WAKEUP CALL TO OUR COMMUNITY!!!! We TRAVEL over 6 hours to Penns Peak and get hotel room because we LOVE THAT BARN.... Thanksgiving Eve precludes that usually so we go to the Spring show. We need to understand that we live on a planet of good & evil. Our music and GOOD TIME is being hijacked by the same element that hijacked the GD tour starting back in 1992. I ended my touring in 1991. 15 shows in 18 days at MSG & Boston Garden in Fall 1991. When Hornsby left the handwriting was on the wall. There is an ELEMENT that uses OUR MUSIC as an EXCUSE to GET OBLITERATED, while at the same time AS A PREDATORY TARGET to sell THEIR WARES (H, Fentanyl, Special K, MDMA, Nitrous) WE DO NOT NEED THESE PEOPLE. THEY COME FOR OUR PARTY & GOOD VIBE but do not understand it & cannot participate in it because they are SOULLESS. They do not come for the music. THE MUSIC IS A COVER for them to socialize and get hammered THEY SHOW THEMSELVES NIGHTLY..They TALK during Comes A Time, They leave in the middle of Slipknot to get a drink. They ask you after Forever Young is played, what show are they RECREATING. They go beserk when Truckin is played. (They actually know a song)By the second set. They spill & slur & bump you all second set. There are some genuine young people seeking our vibe. I engage them usually on the process that Rob Eaton has to go through to program a tour and why certain shows do not fit at a given time. BUT THE ONES WHO CARE LESS IF THEY DESTROY OUR VIBE, are always among us. I HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR IT. HIPPY DOES NOT MEAN DOCILE 24/7. TIME TO STAND UP FOR OURSELVES I walked into Lowell for Wolf. I said wow, old venue, good vibe, if it was Dead & Co. it would be a Nitrous festival. Thank god it is DSO. Then I leave show and GODDAMN. at least 3 vendors of Nitrous right outside the venue. No COPs in Lowell to care. Fender benders in parking lot in the pouring rain. GTFO on a Friday night. We went to Northampton.... PERFECTION. We choose DSO shows by venue. We NEED DANCE ROOM. Not SEATS. Capitol Theater has an inclined floor and MANY DRUNKS and SOLD OUT 1800 people..... No Thanks LET's TAKE THIS BACK!!! I KNOW YOU POSTERS. I SEE YOU IN THE FRONT AT EVERY SHOW. There are 360 degrees around all of us. Let's manage that space and NOT ALLOW THIS WE CANNOT SPREAD A GOOD VIBE TO EVIL.... WHEN EVIL is CONFRONTED.... IT RUNS... IT HIDES... THEN IT WILL BE GONE.... Mason's Child, my brother: The EVIL on this planet grows daily. There are no myths, there are no coincidences. There is only truth & reality. The uneducated & the unexperienced are their targets. All it takes is one trick, newbies hope they bought coke but.... you got H, Meth, Fentanyl as substitutes. One taste and you're hooked Shipping powders back and forth. …..White goes north. ….A whole world full of petty wars.... I have been turning the page since 1984. Now is OUR TIME.... TOGETHER.

I'm not ready to throw mdma in the same category as those other substances. Is it possibly harmful to health if over used? Yes. But the behavior that it elicits is loving. How to know if it's clean? There are tests for that.

I was at the show front row right side. Was that Travis Bean guitar a Jerry Played Travis Bean??? Did not see an altercation first set but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. There was definitely an overpowering smell of what seemed to me to be 1980's style Mexican Brown Swaggy weed. I am an older head and a Wharf Rat, so I am out of touch with the newer stuff that is out there. Does K2 smell like Mexican Swag Brown weed because it was nauseating. I did see the mustached roadie close down the show during Stella Blue. We thought the venue shut down the show for running too late. I was excited to see a much younger teen crowd enjoying the music, I thought maybe they were the ones with the Bad smelling swag just cause they were young and maybe that was all they know how to get?? No idea what K2 is and glad I'm a Wharf Rat vape pens seem suspect. Maybe I am just OLD and In The Way!

For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky.

I always appreciate an informed, and informative, discussion of the distinction between man-made versus God-given pharmacopeia. All of this reminds me of the wit and wisdom of Yogi Berra: deja vu all over again. Thankfully there are those who step up to the plate and master by any means necessary. This is another reason I have spent my show-seeing career in the back. And there usually was more room for my ergot-induced St Vitus dance. The front row was a bit more aggro.

But is the manmade acid ok to use? I'm pretty sure my paper or liquid wasn't made by god, but unfortunately I gotta avoid gluten, so the shock-topped wheat is out...

I couldn’t agree more! This is so sad to read. I have expressed myself recently on another thread about the ending of the Grateful Dead and gate crashers, etc. I’m sure Dark Star Orchestra will react to this. They have no choice. The older, more mature heads need to react to this negative element as well. Zero tolerance. I worked in the recreational boating industry for twenty years. I was told by an old timer that they teach you in survival school that when the ship is in distress, someone rises up to be the ‘captain’ and take charge of the situation. It isn’t necessarily the captain that does it, but a certain personality. We know who we are. It looks like we’ll be doing a little bit of work also, while we are enjoying ourselves at future shows. The band has enough to do. Let’s rise to the occasion. ..... I could not caution all, but I still might warn a few. Don’t lend your hand to raise no flag, atop no ship of fools.

How horrible! Can you imagine being passed a vape pen, expecting cannabis concentrate, and then passing out due to opiate overdose? What the fuck, people?? Another friend at the CT show said guys in front of him were all drunk & rolling sloppy joints of fake MJ, I guess that K2 stuff? He said it smelled like burning plastic bags, and they were all loopy & shit. Don't these idiots know that good ol' cannabis is more available than ever? I just don't understand where folks are coming from with this. Feels like stupidity, but could it just be plain ignorance? Share & educate, folks. Look out for your brothers & sisters, and spread the good vibes. And stick to the good drugs, for chrissakes..

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My discussion is to show that there is a clear dichotomy of those who care for the scene and those who USE it. This dichotomy extends to the drugs they use and how they conduct themselves on said drugs. This extends to society as a whole... I guess from the back, you will have a good view of our scene going away, taken by others. It is easy to stay above the fray. How about you police your 360 degrees in the back... I can handle the aggression in the front. I have partners called security. These security partners of mine are in every venue. They get paid .. only when there is a show. If someone is threatening the future performance of shows, then that directly impacts their livelihood. They are One of Us!!! and if all of us heads: front, middle, center, side, back, balcony, orchestra, lobby, step up & form the Tholian Web.. Then... This darkness got to give.... .

Oh man. This hurts my heart to hear this shit went down. Hope this isn’t the start of a trend. I wouldn’t be able to identify any of the new fangled things either. As someone who has been bringing kids to shows for years I am used to putting myself in between them and the out of control and I have no problem telling some staggering lunatic that it’s time to relocate. But usually it’s just drunks. I’m very naive probably to the new trendy drugs that has our youth so fucked up and dying like crazy.

My Brother Greg.... Spot On. I am in front row every show I go to and ….. I am the Captain of that show. I police my area while enjoying my high

https://archive.org/details/dso2018-11-16.nak300.cp1.cp4

I wonder if he thinks DSO plays Grateful Dead concerts note for note. I know that it was a high energy concert and I was soaked by the end of the night. https://archive.org/details/dso2018-11-17.nak300.cp1.cp4

I bet he rants about how much Cornell '77 sucks.

Foolish Heart was outstanding. I agree, they handle that tune better than anyone. And yes, Comes a Time was definitely met with the love and respect. I didn't mention it before, but Drums/Space last night was outstanding. I always look forward to it, but sometimes feel like I'm in the minority there. Last night the packed house hung in there though. Very cool.