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On 12/13/2019 at 11:54 AM, Tea said:

Barraco is wise.


"Has playing this music so much and with everyone you have played with given you a larger picture of what IT is? Along with most deadheads, I would venture to guess that it is more than just music, or maybe it is just music at its finest. It's fun to speculate, only fifty or so years from its inception here, what the Grateful Dead is."


"The beauty and mystery of chemistry. Why do we fall in love with just certain people? When the chemistry is working, you feel like a flock of geese or birds or fish. All flying in the same direction yet like a double helix with all sorts of twists and turns.
The Dead has become a cultural phenomena above and beyond the music."

Hey, I know who asked that question! Rob's answer, eloquent and thought provoking. It is interesting to me, from what I gather from his answer, that to him, playing music with the band feels similar to how it feels to me on the dance floor, when it's really good and you are surrounded by other enthusiastic dancers, friends or strangers. The element of grace feels tangible and accessible ❤️

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I think it was Jerry who said it was ‘group music’  that they were trying to achieve. 

I read somewhere where Bobby describes that special moment when they successfully achieve what they were trying to get at, as basically ‘the music plays the band’. 

  It definitely requires the audience to achieve that point. 

  The draw for me is that every note matters. You have to listen to every note. Same song, different version, you gotta listen to every note. This is not background music. 

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I think the Grateful Dead Movie really does a great job of conveying many of the facets of the Grateful Dead concert experience, which was Jerry's goal with it. From the deadheads of all shapes and sizes, to the exasperated cop dealing with the "getting my space together" guy, to the shamelessly ogling food vendor, to the crew setting up the equipment, to the guys sweeping up at the end. 


The last time I watched the movie, however, was the first time I noticed that Jerry could have been also trying to convey what it is like to be a member of the band. There is a point where the footage cuts to Phil, soaked with sweat, locked deep in the throes of a hot Playin' jam, with the band working their way toward the reprise.


The angle is sort of from behind the neck of his bass, which first gave me this idea that, maybe this is kind of how it would feel on stage. As they get to the repeating figure, which precedes the reprise, the footage cuts to Jerry, playing that repeating figure over and over, bringing the volume lower and lower, with him mouthing "shhh" to the band, masterfully bringing the dynamics down to a pin drop, and upon reaching the "turn around", bringing them back up, to full volume at the point of release, when the band slams back into the reprise.


I think Jerry was trying to let us know how it feels from the stage. Just something I noticed on my last viewing of the Movie, check it out next time you watch it 😃

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Thanks for that thoughtful analysis Hardpan. 

I try and rewatch the movie once every year or two and I always get something new out of it every time...


I still think it would be well worth if somehow a similarly approached documentary could be created trying to capture and convey the DSO experience. It's such a unique thing...

Quality footage on perspectives from both sides of the rail...all of the thought, intention, attention and care brought to this scene by those involved...



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40 minutes ago, Greg from Chestertown said:

I think I figured it out last night. Dead and Company is a Dark Star Orchestra tribute band. 

I love that Bobby is still Truckin.  Maybe only Willie Nelson and Wayne Newton have performed as much as Bob.  

I’m just thankful that DSO keeps up the pace.  I’ll bet I could dance in slow-motion but only if I have no choice.

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